Comments on: Waiting For Death On The Gardiner Expressway http://www.newstasis.com/2007/10/04/waiting-for-death-on-the-gardiner-expressway/ helping you find a better life one state at a time Wed, 08 Feb 2012 03:43:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: New Challenges - Moving In With Rachel - Month 3 | newstasis.com :: a blog about improving wellness http://www.newstasis.com/2007/10/04/waiting-for-death-on-the-gardiner-expressway/#comment-600 Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:22:49 +0000 http://www.newstasis.com/2007/10/04/waiting-for-death-on-the-gardiner-expressway/#comment-600 [...] It can end at any moment so enjoy all of it. Rachel’s flat tire on the Gardiner Expressway served as a wake-up call for us to get rid of any complacency that had developed in the relationship. [...] […] It can end at any moment so enjoy all of it. Rachel’s flat tire on the Gardiner Expressway served as a wake-up call for us to get rid of any complacency that had developed in the relationship. […]

]]> by: Peter Samuel http://www.newstasis.com/2007/10/04/waiting-for-death-on-the-gardiner-expressway/#comment-481 Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:39:24 +0000 http://www.newstasis.com/2007/10/04/waiting-for-death-on-the-gardiner-expressway/#comment-481 Yes I know there's no good shelter on the edges of the Gardiner. I still think you are safer in this situation getting out and standing hard up against the parapet than sitting in a car liable to be hit very hard from behind. But it's certainly a choice between two hazards the roadway design should not force on you. Most tunnels and bridges without breakdown shoulder at least have a narrow walkway along one side. Yes I know there’s no good shelter on the edges of the Gardiner. I still think you are safer in this situation getting out and standing hard up against the parapet than sitting in a car liable to be hit very hard from behind. But it’s certainly a choice between two hazards the roadway design should not force on you. Most tunnels and bridges without breakdown shoulder at least have a narrow walkway along one side.

]]> by: Pat http://www.newstasis.com/2007/10/04/waiting-for-death-on-the-gardiner-expressway/#comment-478 Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:27:05 +0000 http://www.newstasis.com/2007/10/04/waiting-for-death-on-the-gardiner-expressway/#comment-478 She did consider getting out of the car but made the call to say put because there really is no where to take shelter. It's an elavated section of highway with no shoulder at all - just three lanes of highway traffic. The first police officer on the scene called her cell phone and said "I'm here behind you, but I'm not getting out of the car because it isn't safe. Stay where you are until tow trucks get here and we're able to guide the traffic around you." This section of highway needs a lot of work to make it safe but since Toronto has expanded so much since it was made, they have no space to grow it. Thanks for your comment Peter. She did consider getting out of the car but made the call to say put because there really is no where to take shelter. It’s an elavated section of highway with no shoulder at all - just three lanes of highway traffic. The first police officer on the scene called her cell phone and said “I’m here behind you, but I’m not getting out of the car because it isn’t safe. Stay where you are until tow trucks get here and we’re able to guide the traffic around you.”
This section of highway needs a lot of work to make it safe but since Toronto has expanded so much since it was made, they have no space to grow it.
Thanks for your comment Peter.

]]> by: Peter Samuel http://www.newstasis.com/2007/10/04/waiting-for-death-on-the-gardiner-expressway/#comment-477 Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:53:49 +0000 http://www.newstasis.com/2007/10/04/waiting-for-death-on-the-gardiner-expressway/#comment-477 Terrifying! This is the argument for modernization to add breakdown shoulder and to improve the geometry of curves so there are longer sight distances to give oncoming drivers more time to stop. With proper ITS technology it should also be possible to quickly detect a stopped vehicle, provide warnings of it to oncoming traffic, as well as get police there a lot faster than 20 minutes. But I think the recommended action in a circumstance like this is to leave the car and take shelter at the edge of the roadway, and wait there out of harms way from a rear-ender. Did she consider this? Terrifying! This is the argument for modernization to add breakdown shoulder and to improve the geometry of curves so there are longer sight distances to give oncoming drivers more time to stop. With proper ITS technology it should also be possible to quickly detect a stopped vehicle, provide warnings of it to oncoming traffic, as well as get police there a lot faster than 20 minutes.

But I think the recommended action in a circumstance like this is to leave the car and take shelter at the edge of the roadway, and wait there out of harms way from a rear-ender. Did she consider this?

]]> by: 10millionin3years.com » Waiting For Death On The Gardiner Expressway http://www.newstasis.com/2007/10/04/waiting-for-death-on-the-gardiner-expressway/#comment-476 Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:27:59 +0000 http://www.newstasis.com/2007/10/04/waiting-for-death-on-the-gardiner-expressway/#comment-476 [...] IndyNess wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptI turned my phone on around 11:58 PM and my night changed. … I call her at 12 AM and she answers her cell home in a frantic state…. [...] […] IndyNess wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptI turned my phone on around 11:58 PM and my night changed. … I call her at 12 AM and she answers her cell home in a frantic state…. […]

]]> by: cars » Waiting For Death On The Gardiner Expressway http://www.newstasis.com/2007/10/04/waiting-for-death-on-the-gardiner-expressway/#comment-475 Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:12:29 +0000 http://www.newstasis.com/2007/10/04/waiting-for-death-on-the-gardiner-expressway/#comment-475 [...] ~ D.E.E.P. .B.L.U.E. ~ wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerpt“I’m at the side of the Gardner and someone has hit my car. The cops have just shown up….But when you are driving on the rim and the car is grinding to a stop, you are left with very little choice other than to stay put and make those “t…For almost 20 minutes she sat there stuck in her car waiting for the police hoping that someone would not rear end her….I KNEW it was over as soon as I looked up to see all the other cars waiting f or me get out of their way…. [...] […] ~ D.E.E.P. .B.L.U.E. ~ wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerpt“I’m at the side of the Gardner and someone has hit my car. The cops have just shown up….But when you are driving on the rim and the car is grinding to a stop, you are left with very little choice other than to stay put and make those “t…For almost 20 minutes she sat there stuck in her car waiting for the police hoping that someone would not rear end her….I KNEW it was over as soon as I looked up to see all the other cars waiting f or me get out of their way…. […]

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