Comments on: I Yell Because I Care http://www.newstasis.com/2007/12/29/i-yell-because-i-care/ helping you find a better life one state at a time Tue, 07 Feb 2012 10:20:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: Pat http://www.newstasis.com/2007/12/29/i-yell-because-i-care/#comment-817 Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:51:55 +0000 http://www.newstasis.com/2007/12/29/i-yell-because-i-care/#comment-817 Hey Gregor, I was talking to Rachel about "throwing coffees" this week. She wasn't impressed - but she does have the advantage of being more mature than I was back then. In hindsight, our friendship was a huge portion as to why I yelled and threw the coffees, so I agree completely that it was an honest working relationship, one of the most honest that I have ever had - I guess that could be part of the reason why I haven't thrown a coffee in years : ). Pat Hey Gregor,
I was talking to Rachel about “throwing coffees” this week. She wasn’t impressed - but she does have the advantage of being more mature than I was back then.
In hindsight, our friendship was a huge portion as to why I yelled and threw the coffees, so I agree completely that it was an honest working relationship, one of the most honest that I have ever had - I guess that could be part of the reason why I haven’t thrown a coffee in years : ).
Pat

]]> by: Gregor http://www.newstasis.com/2007/12/29/i-yell-because-i-care/#comment-816 Sat, 26 Jan 2008 03:59:42 +0000 http://www.newstasis.com/2007/12/29/i-yell-because-i-care/#comment-816 Gentlemen please excuse the fact that I'm already a few Whiskeys in...... Tony you said "Let’s face it… are there any “positives” or “advantages” from the exercise of yelling? I can’t think of any." May I please direct you to the NSFW due to language link below http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y In all honesty I often bring Pat and mines working relationship up as one of the best I've ever had. Why? Amidst all the yelling and coffee throwing BS I never once questioned where Pat stood, and dare I guess him me. I would give up much to have that relationship honest a relationship with any employer and cast aside the 15 pages in the employee handbook that address "proper conduct" ~G Gentlemen please excuse the fact that I’m already a few Whiskeys in……

Tony you said “Let’s face it… are there any “positives” or “advantages” from the exercise of yelling? I can’t think of any.”

May I please direct you to the NSFW due to language link below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y

In all honesty I often bring Pat and mines working relationship up as one of the best I’ve ever had. Why? Amidst all the yelling and coffee throwing BS I never once questioned where Pat stood, and dare I guess him me.

I would give up much to have that relationship honest a relationship with any employer and cast aside the 15 pages in the employee handbook that address “proper conduct”

~G

]]> by: Pat http://www.newstasis.com/2007/12/29/i-yell-because-i-care/#comment-762 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 17:53:49 +0000 http://www.newstasis.com/2007/12/29/i-yell-because-i-care/#comment-762 > Let’s face it… are there any “positives” or “advantages” from the exercise of yelling? I can’t think of any. There are a few: It can modify others behavior if you don't have the time to explain why something needs to change. It can create a sense of shame in the yeller which can serve as the catalyst for some badly needed personal development. > Let’s face it… are there any “positives” or “advantages” from the exercise of yelling? I can’t think of any.

There are a few:
It can modify others behavior if you don’t have the time to explain why something needs to change.
It can create a sense of shame in the yeller which can serve as the catalyst for some badly needed personal development.

]]> by: Tony http://www.newstasis.com/2007/12/29/i-yell-because-i-care/#comment-761 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 17:02:26 +0000 http://www.newstasis.com/2007/12/29/i-yell-because-i-care/#comment-761 You wrote: "Regardless if it’s maturity or a positive change in my environment, life is a lot easier not flying off the handle all the time." Agreed. I think it bodes better for the relationship... as well as one's own personal health. Let's face it... are there any "positives" or "advantages" from the exercise of yelling? I can't think of any. You wrote:
“Regardless if it’s maturity or a positive change in my environment, life is a lot easier not flying off the handle all the time.”

Agreed. I think it bodes better for the relationship… as well as one’s own personal health. Let’s face it… are there any “positives” or “advantages” from the exercise of yelling? I can’t think of any.

]]> by: Pat http://www.newstasis.com/2007/12/29/i-yell-because-i-care/#comment-752 Thu, 03 Jan 2008 02:21:51 +0000 http://www.newstasis.com/2007/12/29/i-yell-because-i-care/#comment-752 > we’d heed the message (not the tone) Heh heh! Oh the good old days when how you said it mattered more than what you said. In hindsight I needed to be more concerned when the tone started being the message because that tends to indicate a break down in a friendship. Regardless if it's maturity or a positive change in my environment, life is a lot easier not flying off the handle all the time. > we’d heed the message (not the tone)

Heh heh! Oh the good old days when how you said it mattered more than what you said. In hindsight I needed to be more concerned when the tone started being the message because that tends to indicate a break down in a friendship.
Regardless if it’s maturity or a positive change in my environment, life is a lot easier not flying off the handle all the time.

]]> by: Tony http://www.newstasis.com/2007/12/29/i-yell-because-i-care/#comment-750 Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:03:38 +0000 http://www.newstasis.com/2007/12/29/i-yell-because-i-care/#comment-750 Interesting blog. However, I'll respectfully disagree. Perhaps I'm right... maybe I'm wrong. However, I believe you're generalizing way too much here. Perhaps you did yell at people... but having worked with you, I'd say you yelled at particular people/personalities - not all. Not having been subjected to your tirades - mostly because it would have been unwarranted but also because I would have called you on it - I'd say that a lot of that behaviour stemmed more from the working environment than any personal philosophy. You personally knew all the people that worked for Ranger for many years... which afforded you a certain comfortability level. That type of relationship would allow for that type of behavior to be interpreted differently than other situations -- for instance, we wouldn't take it personally, we'd heed the message (not the tone) and move on with no residual issues. As we've discussed previously, under most other circumstances... you probably would have been terminated at least a dozen times for your behaviour. I think your current maturity stems from the fact that you've now come to appreciate that reality :-) And now that you've come to identify a career path of personal significance... and in something you have a vested interest in... it's completely appropriate that you've changed your approach accordingly. And as a long-time friend... I'm happy for you. And proud. Now, if you'll excuse... I have a telemarketer on the phone I have to tell off. Interesting blog. However, I’ll respectfully disagree. Perhaps I’m right… maybe I’m wrong. However, I believe you’re generalizing way too much here. Perhaps you did yell at people… but having worked with you, I’d say you yelled at particular people/personalities - not all. Not having been subjected to your tirades - mostly because it would have been unwarranted but also because I would have called you on it - I’d say that a lot of that behaviour stemmed more from the working environment than any personal philosophy.

You personally knew all the people that worked for Ranger for many years… which afforded you a certain comfortability level. That type of relationship would allow for that type of behavior to be interpreted differently than other situations — for instance, we wouldn’t take it personally, we’d heed the message (not the tone) and move on with no residual issues.

As we’ve discussed previously, under most other circumstances… you probably would have been terminated at least a dozen times for your behaviour. I think your current maturity stems from the fact that you’ve now come to appreciate that reality :-)

And now that you’ve come to identify a career path of personal significance… and in something you have a vested interest in… it’s completely appropriate that you’ve changed your approach accordingly.

And as a long-time friend… I’m happy for you. And proud.

Now, if you’ll excuse… I have a telemarketer on the phone I have to tell off.

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