Comments on: A Calorie Is Not A Calorie http://www.newstasis.com/2010/03/02/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie/ helping you find a better life one state at a time Sat, 19 May 2012 18:33:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: Pat http://www.newstasis.com/2010/03/02/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie/#comment-12253 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:01:00 +0000 http://www.newstasis.com/2010/03/02/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie/#comment-12253 Tony, I love that quote, I say it a fair bit to people when they ask me for advice and tell me that they have a good program or a great diet, or whatever. When they say this I just smile and ask them how it is working out for them. I guess it comes down to them not knowing what they don't know. Pat Tony,
I love that quote, I say it a fair bit to people when they ask me for advice and tell me that they have a good program or a great diet, or whatever. When they say this I just smile and ask them how it is working out for them. I guess it comes down to them not knowing what they don’t know.
Pat

]]> by: Tony http://www.newstasis.com/2010/03/02/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie/#comment-12252 Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:20:01 +0000 http://www.newstasis.com/2010/03/02/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie/#comment-12252 Pat, I'm not sure if it's necessarily true. Like "massage therapy", I'm sure most people think they have a pretty decent personal understanding of nutrition -- not truly, but just their perception of their knowledge and how/where they acquired it. And it's unfortunate that they don't completely entrust the professionals with whom they seek/pay for advice -- they're (ie. professional) met with skepticism if any knowledge is inconsistent with their own. It takes time... and almost requires immediate results to build their trust. But that's where Brad Pitt's line in Fight Club on the airplane works so well, "So, how's that working out for you?!"-- referring to their behavior exhibited by their knowledge. In the end, there *must* be a reason why they're sitting in front of you to begin with. Pat,
I’m not sure if it’s necessarily true. Like “massage therapy”, I’m sure most people think they have a pretty decent personal understanding of nutrition — not truly, but just their perception of their knowledge and how/where they acquired it. And it’s unfortunate that they don’t completely entrust the professionals with whom they seek/pay for advice — they’re (ie. professional) met with skepticism if any knowledge is inconsistent with their own. It takes time… and almost requires immediate results to build their trust. But that’s where Brad Pitt’s line in Fight Club on the airplane works so well, “So, how’s that working out for you?!”– referring to their behavior exhibited by their knowledge. In the end, there *must* be a reason why they’re sitting in front of you to begin with.

]]> by: Pat http://www.newstasis.com/2010/03/02/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie/#comment-12233 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:13:43 +0000 http://www.newstasis.com/2010/03/02/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie/#comment-12233 Hey Tony, I agree with you completely. One thing that has become evident to me though is that it's easier to get someone to change their mind when they are paying you for your knowledge - the same piece of information has more value when someone is paying to hear it and they are more likely to listen and make behavioural changes when it is on their dime. Pat Hey Tony,
I agree with you completely.
One thing that has become evident to me though is that it’s easier to get someone to change their mind when they are paying you for your knowledge - the same piece of information has more value when someone is paying to hear it and they are more likely to listen and make behavioural changes when it is on their dime.
Pat

]]> by: Tony http://www.newstasis.com/2010/03/02/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie/#comment-12232 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:56:35 +0000 http://www.newstasis.com/2010/03/02/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie/#comment-12232 When I hear someone strut the "calories in/out" mantra... I simply don't even bother discussing the topic any further with them. It's a simple matter of "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing". And at the end of the day... thankfully I'm not in the business that requires me to change their mind :-) When I hear someone strut the “calories in/out” mantra… I simply don’t even bother discussing the topic any further with them. It’s a simple matter of “a little knowledge is a dangerous thing”. And at the end of the day… thankfully I’m not in the business that requires me to change their mind :-)

]]> by: Chris http://www.newstasis.com/2010/03/02/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie/#comment-12226 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 03:10:00 +0000 http://www.newstasis.com/2010/03/02/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie/#comment-12226 What you're saying definitely makes sense-- maybe it means merely implying it implicitly through the other basic rules. That way we're not relying on cliches or oversimplifications masquerading as legitimate facts. Good thoughts as always Pat! What you’re saying definitely makes sense– maybe it means merely implying it implicitly through the other basic rules.

That way we’re not relying on cliches or oversimplifications masquerading as legitimate facts. Good thoughts as always Pat!

]]> by: Pat http://www.newstasis.com/2010/03/02/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie/#comment-12215 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:30:15 +0000 http://www.newstasis.com/2010/03/02/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie/#comment-12215 Hi Chris, I can't argue with you about the complexity of women : ). The funny thing about simple rules is that while they do help move people closer to an understanding, they often move them further away from the truth. The calorie is a calorie is one those rules - the energy that one can get from a calorie of protein is not the same as the energy one will get from a calorie of fat yet the simple rule says that they are the same. In this case I think it would be better if people didn't have ANY understanding vs. a very inaccurate one - one doesn't need to know how an engine works in order to learn how to drive, they simply need to follow the instructions of an expect. Nutrition is the same thing - the whole a calorie is a calorie dogma empowers people to make poor decisions that they believe are good choices, and for that they suffer. Pat Hi Chris,
I can’t argue with you about the complexity of women : ).

The funny thing about simple rules is that while they do help move people closer to an understanding, they often move them further away from the truth. The calorie is a calorie is one those rules - the energy that one can get from a calorie of protein is not the same as the energy one will get from a calorie of fat yet the simple rule says that they are the same. In this case I think it would be better if people didn’t have ANY understanding vs. a very inaccurate one - one doesn’t need to know how an engine works in order to learn how to drive, they simply need to follow the instructions of an expect. Nutrition is the same thing - the whole a calorie is a calorie dogma empowers people to make poor decisions that they believe are good choices, and for that they suffer.
Pat

]]> by: Chris http://www.newstasis.com/2010/03/02/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie/#comment-12200 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:34:04 +0000 http://www.newstasis.com/2010/03/02/a-calorie-is-not-a-calorie/#comment-12200 He's backkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!! Definitely agree with a calorie not always being a calorie, but I think a lot of the energy in/energy out paradigm has to do with making a complex topic simple enough for the masses. If calories in/calories out didn't matter at all then overeating wouldn't be an issue, so I think it has its merits when the discussion isn't dumbed down to make it seem like it is the only rule to follow. Nutrition really is a tricky topic to truly understand -- kinda like women. Most sides make compelling arguments in articles/video/etc, but maybe this is more due to the advice of marketing depts. and portraying specific info and leaving other stuff out. I never know who to actually believe! He’s backkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!

Definitely agree with a calorie not always being a calorie, but I think a lot of the energy in/energy out paradigm has to do with making a complex topic simple enough for the masses. If calories in/calories out didn’t matter at all then overeating wouldn’t be an issue, so I think it has its merits when the discussion isn’t dumbed down to make it seem like it is the only rule to follow.

Nutrition really is a tricky topic to truly understand — kinda like women. Most sides make compelling arguments in articles/video/etc, but maybe this is more due to the advice of marketing depts. and portraying specific info and leaving other stuff out. I never know who to actually believe!

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